Compare to BFP 2.0 and InSight

I have been working through the Brain Fitness Program 2.0 and InSight. Are there significant differences between those exercises and this new brainHQ to justify the expense? Is there new research that has been incorporated to significantly improve the exercises and/or results?
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  • Hi Ken,

    All of the exercises from Posit Science's previous programs, including the Brain Fitness Program and InSight, have been implemented and improved upon in BrainHQ. Right away you will notice the improved feedback and greater user control. We have also added some new exercises and more will be coming soon.

    The format of BrainHQ is different from the previous programs;

    BrainHQ is web-based. The advantages of a web-based program are:

    - There is no software to install

    - You can access BrainHQ on more than one computer

    - Works on both Windows and Macintosh

    - We save your progress data for you, nothing is stored on your computer.

    - You can train on your own schedule, for as little or much as you like

    There are many improvements over our previous programs which you can see for yourself by trying the available free exercises:

    https://brainhq.positscience.com/defa...

    https://brainhq.positscience.com/defa...

    We really think you will like BrainHQ!

    Kind Regards,

    Ilya
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  • I understand that, but are the new exercises significantly more efficacious than the old ones? The original package represents a pretty significant investment for a user, and if I'm getting benefits from that I need to see a convincing argument that this new package will achieve far greater results (possibly due to new research or new techniques incorporated into the exercises) before spending more money.
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  • I’m curious
    what is the difference between brain hq and the previous posit science cd programs?

    I can imagine as this is a relatively new venture that these exercises are inspired by, but perhaps not as comprehensive as the Total Brain Training programs?

    I would prefer not to spend £200 on the software and have been holding off on the purchase for some time. In time will brain HQ supercede the previous programs, and will brain HQ incorporate and improve upon the previous programs?

    As an additional but similar question, do you have plans to create a mobile smartphone app in future? (preferable for android phones - I do not own an iphone... but I'm sure the same question goes for any iphone users as well!)

    Many thanks

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    past, present and future of posit science programs - and smart apps for smart phones?.
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    • ok, I don't actually own an ipad... Personally I'm more interested in an app for my android platform based samsung galaxy s3 smartphone...

      In terms of the answer to mine and Ken's questions. I assume that the site has been created to allow for improvements to be implemented over time, and to make the products more alluring and more dynamic in order to compete with luminosity and other such potential competitors.

      I think it's a great idea, but Ken seems to be concerned that perhaps the program will either be the same, or perhaps not even as well honed.

      I will be concerned that the program may be "watered down" as new exercises are added in order to keep a certain novelty on the web service and keep us interested... I hope that's not the case in the long term!

      An additional question. Are the auditory programs also incorporated in brainHQ as well as the the insight programs?
    • Hi Gedi,

      We have not tested BrainHQ on the android system adequately enough to confirm its functionality without errors.

      However I can let you know that using a a smartphone might be difficult due to the size of the screen being too small for adequate exercise performance.

      The answers to your question in regards to BFP and Insight exercises within BrainHQ can be found under the "Training FAQ" section of the site:

      https://brainhq.positscience.com/defa...

      + Which BrainHQ exercises correspond to those in the Brain Fitness Program?
      + Which BrainHQ exercises correspond to those in InSight?

      Our science behind the BrainHQ still remains strong as ever and we are committed to delivering the best of what the brain plasticity research has to offer.

      You can always read more about the science and research here:

      http://www.positscience.com/why-brain...

      Kind Regards,

      Ilya
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    Hi Gedi,

    With respect to your comment about potentially building a 'mobile' version of the 'BrainHQ' app - in general, due to the structure of ANY mobile app, and the types of measurements that PositScience is relying upon here, the mobile app version will most likely introduce a general level of application measurement latency and lead to inaccurate measurements due to the scale that the measurements are produced on, and the timing of actions in the programs themselves. The mobile processors, SOCs (systems on a chip), the DRAM/SRAM (DMA and otherwise) access, and the overall general architecture of the mobile platforms (while greatly more flexible and capable, that a few years ago, or even 6-9 months previous), none of them come close to approximating RTOS (real-time operating systems) that could consistently be relied upon to produce accurate results. Even though the web applications via a PC or a Mac are also not generally on the general RTOS level, the applications are potentially orders of magnitude more reliable, timely, and accurate, and I am not sure that inaccurate measurements of timeframe (both for running the games, and measuring the results) would ultimately benefit the users enough to consider running it on small embedded hardware - such as new phones or tablets (iPhone5/iPad3/Samsung G3/etc). If you are aware of RTOS functionality, and similar, think about phones that would run VxWorks or similar underlying OS, and then you could potentially have RTOS-like functionality that might be close enough to explore the application and accurateness.

    While I certainly like the idea of being able to 'play' the game, or 'use' the program, on a mobile device, from the way that I have seen PositScience work previously, there is just too much reliance upon the accuracy of the clock, and the presentation versus the user reaction as an important measurement. There ARE EXTREMELY COMPLICATED WAYS TO ADDRESS this from a programming perspective, but even then, it is probably overkill, and most likely, the cost of the program would skyrocket when you include that type of technology, as well as strongly limiting the platforms that it would function on.

    Having said all this, if Google does something like produce a reference 'RTOS-targeted' Droid software architecture with the appropriate hardware specifications - such as a particular SoC design including DMA, SRAM, DRAM, I/O bus, etc...that performs with RTOS functionality and performance, it would be a natural plaform to port and/or use the web application from - however, again, PositScience would likely have to 'certify' the platform and code release to allow use of the software in a meaningful platform, and right now, the capable hardware and software population size would be very small. In the future, who knows...??? :) :)

    My $0.02

    Cheers,
    -Edwin

    Definitions:
    RTOS - Real-Time Operating System
    SOC/SoC - System on a Chip (essentially the integration of several computing components into a single chip (or IC) - thereby reducing cost, and/or potentially allowing additional functionality into exceeding small real-estate space on the processing boards)
    DMA - Direct Memory Access
    DRAM/SRAM - Dynamic Random Access Memory/Static Random Access Memory - typically DRAM is large and slow and cheap; SRAM is fast, and more expensive, and lower power.
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    • Hi Gedi,

      An Ipad version of BrainHQ is in fact currently available for free via Itunes:

      https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/brain...

      Check it out and tell us what you think!

      All the best,

      Ilya
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  • I’m excited
    I am also a very satisfied graduate of the Brain Fitness Auditory Program. I think the key benefit of the online program which I just started will be to extend the training beyond a 6 month period, which as I understand it, is the length of time it takes to make a short term memory into a long-term one. The exercises from BF all seem to be here! I'm pretty excited to re-sharpen my brain and launch the happy brain chemicals again. Will someone please correct me if my thinking is incorrect about the benefits of doing this training for 6 months or longer?
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